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Leo125 25.08.2009 01:19

Frank Sinatra
 
Вложений: 6
Frank Sinatra - Blue Eyes Essentials (5 CD) - 2008
Weton-Wesgram ‎– GTR508

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CD1:

1. The Lady Is a Tramp 3:15
2. I Get a Kick out of You 3:14
3. Come Fly with Me [Live] 2:55
4. Witchcraft 2:51
5. Pennies from Heaven 2:41
6. My Funny Valentine 2:30
7. Jeepers Creepers 2:24
8. I've Got You Under My Skin 3:42
9. Over the Rainbow 3:18
10. Makin' Whoopee 3:04
11. Blue Skies 2:29
12. Amor 2:54
13. Stella by Starlight 3:25
14. Night and Day 3:57
15. A Fellow Needs a Girl 3:11
16. I've Got the World on a String 2:11
17. Love and Marriage 2:12

FLAC/CUE/log/243 mb + 3 %/Scans

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CD2:

1. Body and Soul 3:17
2. Last Night When We Were Young 3:12
3. Mam 'selle 3:23
4. Polka Dots And Moonbeams 3:21
5. Just Close Your Eyes 1:38
6. Do You Know Why 3:09
7. Love Is Here To Stay 2:40
8. My Girl 2:25
9. A Foggy Day 2:38
10. Kiss Me Again 2:39
11. Laura 3:07
12. You Make Me Feel So Young 2:56
13. And Then You Kissed Me 3:04
14. No One Ever Tells You 3:24
15. Try A Little Tenderness 3:10
16. I'm Gonna Sit Right Down And Write Myself A Letter 2:26
17. Just One Of Those Things 3:14

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CD3:

1. April in Paris 2:43
2. Stardust 3:12
3. Bye, Bye, Baby 2:38
4. Let Me Love You Tonight 2:40
5. Is You Is Or Is You Ain't My Baby 2:30
6. A Lovely Way To Spend An Evening 3:08
7. Love Me As I Am 3:09
8. My Heart Tells Me 2:46
9. How Deep Is The Ocean 2:56
10. I Got It Bad (And That Ain't Good) 3:21
11. Not So Long Ago 3:03
12. Poinciana 3:17
13. I Won't Dance 3:22
14. Don't Forget Tonight Tomorrow 2:27
15. Our Love Affair 2:59
16. I've Had This Feeling Before 3:22
17. From This Moment On 3:49

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CD4:

1. As time goes by 2:15
2. Embraceable you 3:17
3. I believe 3:04
4. Saturday night 2:44
5. My romance 3:12
6. I'll close my eyes 1:50
7. Guess I'll hang my tears out to dry 3:25
8. Two in love 2:55
9. Come out, come out, wherever you are 2:01
10. Sweet Lorraine 3:14
11. All the things you are 2:46
12. Just as though you were here 3:13
13. It happened in Monterey 2:34
14. Say it 3:23
15. Make believe 2:13
16. Like someone in love 3:09
17. I can read between the lines 2:47

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CD5:

1. On the sunny side of the street 2:40
2. Begin the beguine 3:47
3. Everybody loves somebody 3:15
4. Ol' Man River 4:09
5. Nancy 3:12
6. It's only a paper moon 1:57
7. It's funny to everyone but me 2:56
8. How about You? 2:45
9. She's funny that way 2:12
10. I don't stand a ghost of a chance with you 3:12
11. I thought about you 2:28
12. I'll never smile again 3:48
13. Nice work if you can get it 2:20
14. Moments in the moonlight 3:15
15. Devil may care 3:08
16. Mood Indigo 3:26
17. Among my souvenirs 3:15

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erruser 28.09.2009 09:38

Re: Frank Sinatra
 
01 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD117_Love and Marriage.wav
Conclusion: this track is MPEG with probability 95%

02 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD1\01_The Lady Is a Tramp.wav
Conclusion: this track is MPEG with probability 95%

03 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD1\02_I Get a Kick out of You.wav
Conclusion: this track is MPEG with probability 95%

04 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD1\03_Come Fly with Me [Live].wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

05 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD1\04_Witchcraft.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

06 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD1\05_Pennies from Heaven.wav
Conclusion: this track is MPEG with probability 95%

07 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD1\06_My Funny Valentine.wav
Conclusion: this track is MPEG with probability 95%

08 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD1\07_Jeepers Creepers.wav
Conclusion: this track is MPEG with probability 95%

09 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD1\08_I've Got You Under My Skin.wav
Conclusion: this track is MPEG with probability 95%

10 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD1\09_Over the Rainbow.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 99%

11 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD110_Makin' Whoopee.wav
Conclusion: this track is MPEG with probability 95%

12 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD111_Blue Skies.wav
Conclusion: this track is MPEG with probability 95%

13 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD112_Amor.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 99%

14 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD113_Stella by Starlight.wav
Conclusion: this track is MPEG with probability 95%

15 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD114_Night and Day.wav
Conclusion: this track is MPEG with probability 95%

16 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD115_A Fellow Needs a Girl.wav
Conclusion: this track is MPEG with probability 99%

17 -===- C:download2008-FS_BEE1_losCD116_I've Got the World on a String.wav
Conclusion: this track is MPEG with probability 95%

AnaToliK 28.09.2009 17:10

Re: Frank Sinatra
 
erruser
That did you want these to say?
Цитата:

...MPEG with probability 95%
Maybe, it is possible that is it a not original disk?
But so is and with original AudioCD...

erruser 15.10.2010 07:38

Re: Frank Sinatra
 
to AnaToliK

Exactly!
This is a FAKE made from MP3 !!! Do not distribute such crap!
It is even possible to hear that it was mp3.

nikanuf 24.11.2010 08:56

Re: Frank Sinatra
 
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Frank Sinatra - 1957 A Jolly Christmas
Vinyl rip MFSL 1-135
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01 - Jingle Bells (2:03)
02 - The Christmas Song (3:29)
03 - Mistletoe and Holly (2:20)
04 - I'll Be Home for Christmas (3:12)
05 - The Christmas Waltz (3:04)
06 - Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas (3:29)
07 - The First Noel (2:44)
08 - Hark! The Herald Angels Sing (2:25)
09 - O Little Town of Bethlehem (2:07)
10 - Adeste Fideles (O, Come All Ye Faithful) (2:34)
11 - It Came Upon the Midnight Clear (2:52)
12 - Silent Night (2:27)

Ripped by Dr. Robert

ape tracks - scans - rar 109 mb.

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Leo125 26.03.2020 13:58

Re: Frank Sinatra
 
Вложений: 1
Ссылки на [Для просмотра ссылки нужно ] восстановил!

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Сообщение от erruser (Сообщение 8390)
to AnaToliK

Exactly!
This is a FAKE made from MP3 !!! Do not distribute such crap!
It is even possible to hear that it was mp3.

To erruser!
And then and now I make rip from official CD (look here: [Для просмотра ссылки нужно ]), from my collection!

Please say SORRY!

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Доп. информация для тех кто будет качать: практически все песни на этих дисках оригинальные записи Синатры 40х - 50х годов, по видимому записанные или с лент, или с пластинок тех лет. Как можно их проверять Аудиочекером, который их проверяет практически только по одному параметру (по частотным характеристикам). Какие частотные характеристики были у записей 40 - 50х годов...? Какой Мп3? Уважаемый erruser, подумайте немного перед тем, как писать ахинею.

erruser 27.03.2020 11:26

Re: Frank Sinatra
 
[QUOTE=Leo125] [Для просмотра ссылки нужно ]

Sorry!
I did the check again with Audiochecker_beta_2.0.0.457 with the same result - so the files are probably the same as before. (Conclusion: this track is MPEG with probability 95%).
I also did the check with Lossless-Audio-Checker-Windows with the result "Clean", so this SW is considering files as original WAV. (different detection method)

Now some tricks:
-I passed cd1 through lame mp3 encoder 320kbps and did the detection again. The results? The SAME as with original flac - first SW mpeg95%, second Clean!!!
-I passed cd1 through lame mp3 encoder 128kbps and did the detection again. The results? Both SW reporting NON original
-I passed cd1 through lame mp3 encoder 192kbps and did the detection again. The results? The SAME as with original flac - first SW mpeg95%, second Clean!!!
-I passed cd1 through lame mp3 encoder 160kbps and did the detection again. The results? Both SW reporting NON original
-I passed cd1 through lame mp3 encoder vbr2 and did the detection again. The results? The SAME as with original flac - first SW mpeg95%, second Clean!!!

What does this mean for me? The record is most probably original grab from CD, but it has quality somewhere between 160-192kbps. Not because of the noise, hum, drop or limited high frequencies but because of residues which are introduced by filtering.

When you listen to the records, you can hear strong adaptive-selective filtering as the authors were trying to recover old records. This is the reason why first test SW consider it as non original. The same effect happens by using low quality/bitrate mp3 due similar signal processing. The positive detection is not because the records are old, but because they were strongly processed.

And now we can discuss what is better, strong filtering with the "tuned pipe effects", or less filtering with more original noise.

Regards, erruser

P.S.
I also did a reference test on Miroslav Vitous - Miroslav.
Original wav was reported as "Original by both SW, while mp3-320 was reported by 1st SW as MPEG with probability 85%, and as Clean by 2nd.

Leo125 27.03.2020 14:55

Re: Frank Sinatra
 
To erruser

I only want to say don't check the old records with Audiochecker. The result will be only one! (95% MPEG) Are you understand me?

Audiochecker is not a BIBLE!

And this CD is not upconvert from MP3, as you say... I don't like such categorical...


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